Monday, February 4, 2013

Country Music Hall of Fame

First, I always give credit where credit is due, and I thank David who I am sure all of you recognize from his comments on the blog, for passing this along to me. Somehow I missed it and I appreciate it.

Usually by March 1st, the Country Music Hall of Fame announces the newest inductees. Information has been posted on another website that lists 5 names in each category that David, along with myself, are assuming are the finalists in each category. If this is the case, this would be the 2nd year in a row that a leak has come out of the Hall of Fame voting. Personally, I would think that the Hall would want to announce the finalists ahead of time, and create a little excitement and news for the Hall of Fame. The major sports do it, as does the Rock Hall of Fame. Again, this is unofficial, but here are the 5 names being mentioned in each category:

Veterans' Era
(These acts are eligible for induction in this category 45 years after they first achieved national prominence)

Dottie West
Johnny & Jack
The Browns
Hank Williams, Jr
Archie Campbell

The surprise on this list is Johnny & Jack. While deserving, their names have not come up before. Perhaps it was the deaths of Kitty Wells and Johnny Wright that have people staring to think about this duo. But I will say, that they are a longshot at best. If I was a voter, my preference would be The Browns. It is time to honor them while they are still alive and able to enjoy it. While my heart says The Browns, realistically I think it will be Dottie West. There seems to be a big push for her this year. ( I will say that I am somewhat surprised again that Bobby Bare and the Wilburn Brothers did not make this list. There had been some talk in the last part of 2012 about the Wilburn's getting consideration, and in my opinion, Bobby Bare is more than deserving to be in the Hall).

Modern Era
(These acts are eligible for induction in this category 20 years after they first achieved national prominence)

Kenny Rogers
The Oak Ridge Boys
Ronnie Milsap
Ricky Skaggs
Alan Jackson

Wow, this is a tough category. Alan Jackson will get in someday, and soon. But for now, he can wait. Kenny Rogers and Dottie West going in together would seem logical and if Dottie does get it, I would fully expect Kenny to join her. Many already think the Oak Ridge Boys are already in. Ricky Skaggs set the trend for traditional country music and bluegrass. If I was a voter, Ronnie Milsap would be my pick. His string of #1 hits is remarkable as well as overcoming his handicap. While my heart is for Ronnie, realistically I would not be surprised if it was Kenny Rogers. All are deserving.

Non-Performer, Songwriter. and / or Touring Musician active prior to 1980
(This is the rotating category, with 2013 set aside for the non-performer)

Buddy Killen
Joe Galante
Fred Foster
Jimmy Bowen
Tony Brown

I think the 3 favorites would be Buddy Killen, Fred Foster and Tony Brown. Jimmy Bowen, while influential and with an impressive record, floated around with different labels and has made some enemies along the way. The same can't be said for Tony Brown and you can probably count on Vince Gill and Emmylou Harris pushing the way for him. His work goes back to Elvis and he is well liked and popular. Buddy Killen is one of the pioneers in the publishing business and Fred Foster was head of Monument Records. I will say that I am surprised that Cowboy Jack Clement is not a finalist, but going from this list he did not make the cut. Realistically, I think any of the 3 I mentioned could go in, with my personal vote going to Tony Brown.

Those are my thoughts. I now open it up to others.

42 comments:

  1. They can't go wrong with any of these choices. If I were a voter and could choose one in each category, I'd go with the Browns, partly for the reasons you mention, Byron: they are here to smell the roses. That isn't meant to minimize Dottie West, who is really deserving, but I think the choices are about equal. In the final category, Buddy Killen isn't among us but I really think he stands out above the others.

    The Modern Era is an incredibly tough one. But I'm going to make an argument. What are the criteria for being in the Hall of Fame? For me, a key factor is whether you have an influence on your time or those to come. Ricky Skaggs was pushing traditional country music when others really weren't, or were doing so but with a different beat (I think of Emmylou, who I revere except for her failure to be a regular at the Opry). Skaggs promoted not only country, but also bluegrass, and did a lot to make possible a resurgence for both of them. None of that is a slap at the other candidates. But if I had to pick, that's who I'd pick--and as Stringbean would say, I feel so insignificant!

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  2. Byron:
    A few thoughts from me.

    One reason I believe this could be the "official" nominees is the fact that Johnny & Jack are listed. I have read many articles by this particular writer, and Johnny & Jack have NEVER been on his radar for Hall of Fame consideration.

    I agree, this probably stems from the recent passing of Johnnie Wright. Johnny & Jack may very well have been an act that everyone "assumed" were Hall of Famers. I have said for years that if The Louvin's, The Everly's, The Delmore's and Homer & Jethro were in, where is Johnny & Jack and The Wilburn's? But as you said, it is going to be a very long shot.

    Hank, Jr.'s consideration does surprise me at this point. Not that I personally do not like him, or feel he is unworthy. His recent "remarks" over the last few years, I thought may keep him off the radar until he would be very elderly or deceased for that matter.

    But I am hopeful now to see The Browns, Archie Campbell & Johnny & Jack considered. It tells me the electors are still looking at acts of the 1950's and not moving on to the acts of the late 1960's that are eligible and could be nominated from this category.

    To me, really no surprises in the Modern Category. Those were the five I really expected to see.

    Like Byron, I am also VERY surprised that Cowboy Jack Clement is not included in the non-performer category. There is a lot talk and building up of his legendary career right now.

    So my picks are:
    Veteran: The Browns; followed by Dottie West. I really believe if West is elected as a posthumous inductee, we will also see a living artist inducted as well. I'm thinking 2013 might bring a tie in this category.

    Modern: Ronnie Milsap deserves it at this point. His 35 No. hits are right behind George Strait, Conway Twitty and Merle Haggard (all Hall of Famers).

    Non-performer- Buddy Killen. He should already be in.

    Bobby Bare, Ray Stevens, Jerry Reed and The Wilburn's are the most "noticed" missing past nominees.

    I would say at this point Stevens is off the radar until he falls into the time frame of the "Veteran" category, which (according to what I can tell) is two years away.

    Bobby Bare and Jerry Reed will get in, it will be in the near future. The Wilburn's are slowly moving from "on the fence" to falling away, I'm afraid.

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  3. Whether you like him or not, Kenny Rogers not being inducted is quite possibly the biggest injustice in the history of the Country Music Hall of Fame. No other legend, other than Dolly Parton, is more of a worldwide icon than Kenny. Kenny has brought Country Music to the world. What other country entertainer plays sell out arenas in Malaysia???

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  4. Fred, Bismarck:

    GO Johnnie & Jack and Ricky Skaggs! There are surely other deserving names on this list, but if we're rewarding pure COUNTRY virtue, I think my horses stand out. I'm also afraid that if Hall voters lose sight of J&J again, they may never regain it.

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    1. Good point Fred !
      That could exactly be the frame of mind of those electors who lean toward traditionalism.
      Although they may not get elected this year, it is possible Johnny & Jack might get enough votes for the nomination committee to take heavy notice.

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    2. So what seems to be the reason the Wilburns aren't in the nominees this year? As someone who's tried (with many others) to put pressure on the CMA to induct them - I'm wondering if our lack of pushing this year (my fault) has anything to do with it?

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  5. Hey David If They Stream The Announcement Of The New Hall Of Famers Again Live This Year Just Like 2011 And Last Year Then I Dont Think It Would Be Either Ronnie Milsap Or The Oak Ridge Boys That Gets In From That Modern Category

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  6. When you look at the history of country music, there are a lot of brother acts that stand out and have been elected to the Hall, including the Delmore Brothers, Louvin Brothers and the Everly Brothers, and then throw in the male groups of Homer & Jethro, Statler Brothers, Jordaniares and more recently Alabama, and you have a good representation.

    Then you have the 2 from the 50s into 60s that have not been elected, which would be the Wilburns and Johnny & Jack. A case can be made that both of these brother acts had very similar careers, yet until this year, it seemed like the Wilburns were discussed every year but not Johnny & Jack.

    While I would be surprised if they get elected, at least they are now in the discussion and hopefully will get consideration in the future.

    A few candidates were mentioned that did not make this list and another one from the non-performer category that I would mention is Irving Waugh. He had a long career at WSM and he was the one that started the Opry's birthday celebration and Fan Fair. He also was the one who pushed the Opry to get involved with television. He was instrumental with the CMA and he was the one that brought Bud Wendell into the Opry's general manager position and pushed Bud to head the company. Irving has been a finalist in the category a number of times and was a big influence with the CMA, WSM and the Opry.

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  7. David, you mentioned a number of veterans who were finalists in the past and did not make the cut this time, specifically Ray Stevens, Bobby Bare, Jerry Reed and the Wilburns. I would also throw June Carter Cash in, as she was a finalist a number of years back, and Mac Wiseman.

    I think it just shows how tough this category is when someone who is a finalist one year drops out of the mix the next. Those mentioned above could easily be the 5 finalists any given year and there would be no complaints from anyone.

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    1. Byron:
      Yes, I forgot about June. I am sure a lot of people assume she is already a member of the Hall of Fame. June does lack on the hit making side of the spectrum (other than her duets with Johnny). But I think there is strong enough reasoning for her exclusion from the Hall to be questioned.
      Let's face it, other than Minnie Pearl, she was the biggest female star at the Opry prior to the Kitty Wells/Jean Shepard days. Her comedy was very poplar. But really, the whole "Mother Maybelle & The Carter Sisters" group was popular. That act, to me, should be in the Hall of Fame (Maybelle, Helen, June & Anita).
      June was a strong ambassador for Country Music for many years, and had some great songwriting abilities as well.
      No doubt her nomination came along about the same time of the "Walk The Line" motion picture. It stirred some peoples minds I'm certain. Much like the recent deaths of Johnnie Wright and Kitty Wells may help the Johnny & Jack act.
      With John Carter Cash pulling a lot of weight around town and June & Johnny being the mentors of a lot of artists, it would not surprise me at all if someday she is elected.
      But for now lets take care of The Browns, Bobby Bare and others still with us.

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    2. Also, not in the too far past, Cowboy Copas and Elton Britt were nominated. They seem to have fallen off the radar.

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  8. It would be perfect for the Oaks who are celebrating 40 years together this year! Just makes sense this would be the year. Barry

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  9. No Barry The Oaks Can Wait Until At Least 2015 To Go In Because I Really Want Alan Jackson To Go In This Year

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  10. Great choices from all 3 categories.But it would be hard to pick somebody.My personal pick would be Dottie,Kenny,Oaks,Archie,Hank Jr.We would have to wait and see.

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  11. Anonymous... are you serious about Alan Jackson??? He is certainly deserving of a Hall of Fame induction, but my goodness, give it some time.

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    1. Leonard:
      I personally cannot see Jackson going in this year. I realize Reba went in in 2011 and Garth Brooks in 2012, but I look for the electors to reach back to the late 1970's and early 1980's this year.

      I think Brooks was a "ok let's get this over with" deal. It had to be done - everyone knew it - and now it's done.

      However, I really feel it was time for Reba to go in. She first reached the Country top 40 in 1978 and was inducted into the Hall of Fame 32 years later. That is near the average for most of the Hall of Fame superstars; Ernest Tubb (21), Eddy Arnold (21), Red Foley (23), Kitty Wells (25), Hank Snow (29), Johnny Cash (25), Marty Robbins (31), Lefty Frizzell (32), Loretta Lynn (28), Willie Nelson (34), Merle Haggard (30), Dolly Parton (32), Conway Twitty (34). Of those thirteen the average is about 28 years from when they first achieved national prominence in Country Music.

      Others however had longer waits; Tennessee Ernie Ford (41), George Jones (37), Buck Owens (37) and Ray Price (44). Others, such as Webb Pierce, Carl Smith, Jean Shepard, Ferlin Husky...etc, it is pure shameful to list how long they had to wait.

      So, I believe it is about 5 to 10 years to early on acts like Randy Travis, Alan Jackson, Brooks & Dunn, Toby Keith, Patty Loveless, Marty Stuart and others of the late 1980's and early 1990's. But they probably will be inducted sooner than we all think.

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  12. David, I agree that it is way too soon for Alan Jackson to get in. And as I mentioned before, I really don't think he will have that much support this year as there are a lot of folks in Nashville who do not care for him and the way he has treated some people. If anyone does not think politics and how well you get along with the Nashville community affects the Hall of Fame vote, all you have to do is mention Faron Young and Webb Pierce, both of whom were not elected until they passed away. In fact, there were several voters who even came out and said they would not vote for Webb as long as he was alive.

    I had no issue with Garth getting in last year. He was well deserving and much like Johnny Cash in 1980, while it may have seemed early, they were both giants in the industry and heads above anyone else from their era. Same with Reba, and actually at the time of her induction, he career was outstanding. Plus it was really time for the CMA to vote in a female.

    I really feel that the voters are going to back-track this year as the candidates from the 1960s in the veterans category, and the 1970s from the modern era are too strong to overlook.

    Alan Jackson will get in, as will Brooks & Dunn, The Judds and Randy Travis. In fact, if you are looking for the next possible candidates from the late 1980s and into the 1990s, those would probably be the first choices. But they have plenty of time.

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    1. Byron:
      We are on the same track here. I agree on Brooks, it was time. 23 years after he gained national prominence and with the world wide fame and gazillion record sales, they really could not wait much longer. Others thought Eddy Arnold and Johnny Cash went in much too soon as well, but years later they got over it. I am certain this will be the case with Brooks.

      On Jackson, I would not be surprised at all if Brooks & Dunn sees a bronze plague before him, as well as Marty Stuart and possibly Randy Travis. Brooks & Dunn (especially Kix Brooks) is very active in the CMA and they are Nashville Favorites. The same can be said for Marty Stuart. He is a "pet" (no disrespect, I love his music) among older artists and is very active in the CMA. Randy Travis, however, just plain deserves it before Jackson. Travis (along with Ricky Skaggs), basically saved traditional Country Music in the 1980's. So much, that if you remember, Garth Brooks even mentioned both of them in his acceptance speech last year.

      But as you said politics is the name of the game.

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  13. Randy Travis should be nominated before Alan Jackson. Maybe his recent problems are keeping him off the ballot. But before Jackson? Easy.

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  14. I'm curious about these comments of how Nashville doesn't like Alan Jackson. Can someone elaborate on this?

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  15. I agree that it was time for Reba. Like her or not, she is an icon and one of country's biggest superstars. Reba, along with artists such as Dolly Parton and Kenny Rogers are those who are "bigger" than country music as a whole, but have brought it to the masses.

    I'm shocked there has been no mention of Tanya Tucker. It seems that she is always overlooked, even though Tanya had a highly successful career in the 70s, 80s, and 90s. I feel that she would still be topping the charts if she could deal with her own personal demons.

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    1. Tanya Tucker will get in someday. Because of her "outlaw" past (much like Waylon & Hank, Jr.), it may take a little time. Of her generation I look for Tanya, Crystal Gayle and Anne Murray all to get strong consideration. Prior to 1970, the only females left who might get in are Dottie West and Lynn Anderson and a few long shots, June Carter Cash and Wilma Lee Cooper.

      From the 1980's, possibly, Janie Fricke (because of the fact she won major CMA awards, and was the 2nd biggest female hit maker of the decade after Reba). Then you have Patty Loveless, The Judds and Lorrie Morgan, who all stand a great chance of going in.

      1990's- Martina McBride and possibly Shania Twain and Faith Hill; Trisha Yearwood?? same say yes, others no...

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  16. I want Tanya Tucker in as soon as possible.

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  17. I checked out the website that was named in an earlier comment. First, it listed possibilities are who might be elected. In the modern era, they listed 13 names. Since there are only 5 finalists, you can throw this out.

    As far as the veterans listed, they named about 15 including Gram Parsons, John Hartford, Johnny Paycheck, David Allen Coe, Tompall & The Glaser Brothers among others. In other words, this was nothing more than someone's wish list.

    They also listed Chet Flippo as a non-performer possibility!!

    What I found funny was that this author said Ronnie Milsap is saddled by his crossover status. He didn't seem to have that issue with Kenny Rogers.

    As far as Tanya Tucker, I agree that she will get in some day, along with Martina McBride and Crystal Gayle. Not sure about Ann Murray or Janie Fricke. Patty Loveless should make it but it could be a few years, while in the case of Shania and Faith, I think their hit making careers were too short.

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    1. Byron:
      Regarding Anne Murray, I personally like her. And that is strange, because I am usually die-hard Country traditionalist, for the most part.

      In a way she is much like Kenny Rogers. Leaning much more Pop than Country. Some call it "Country-Politan". At any rate none can deny her major success. 54 Million records sold, 11 No. 1 hits, 15 other Top-Ten records, 4 major CMA awards and multiple Grammy awards are nothing to sneeze at. She lasted in the Country top 40 from 1970 to 1991, 21 years, and that is longer than Crystal Gayle and longer than current Hall of Famers, Barbara Mandrell and Emmylou Harris (all of her generation).

      Martina McBride, Amy Grant, Shelby Lynne, Faith Hill and Shania Twain, all lists her as a major influence.

      The criteria is "to be judged on the degree of his or her contribution to the advancement of Country Music and on the indelibility of his/her impact". When it comes to Hall of Fame inductions of artists of the late 1970's and thru the 1980's, traditionalists, like myself, are going to have to swallow some Kenny Rogers, Anne Murray, Crystal Gayle, Ronnie Milsap, John Denver, etc..pills... None, can deny their success. They were on top of the charts along with Ricky Skaggs, The Oaks, Randy Travis, Gene Watson and others. You cannot leave out the biggest stars of the decade, simply because you did not hear many twin fiddles in their records.

      While, I agree, Anne Murray may never get elected (much do to her "non-nashville" appearance), her career does merit at least consideration.

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  18. I've always been a big Anne Murray fan as well. Although since she has retired, she seems to have been "forgotten".

    I would love to see Wilma Lee Cooper inducted, but it's a big long shot. Lynn Anderson is another potential candidate, but I don't see that happening either. Sadly, no one remembers Janie Fricke anymore.

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  19. I want June Carter Cash in as soon as possible.Like 2013? I like this;CARTER FAMILY [1970],JOHNNY CASH [1980],JUNE CARTER CASH [2013].Anybody else like this?

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  20. What is wrong with this so called hall of fame. They have some most deserving nominees this year in the veterans catagory and modern era catagory. Why not repeat the year 2001 and play catch up and induct several of these most deserving musicians. that list should include in the veterans catagory: Dottie west, Hank jr., Johnnie and Jack, Jeannie Sealy, Bobby Bare, The Browns, Jan Howard and Jack Greene. Modern catagory should include: Ronnie Milsap, Kenny Rogers, Oak Ridge Boys, Alan Jackson, and John Anderson. The Hall of Fame better wake up and elect at least some of these stars while they are still alive to enjoy it. Also, why did Garth get into the Hall so fast and early? He deserves it, but 2012 was way too soon.

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    1. While it does aggravate many Country Music Fans, because their favorite artist is not in the Hall of Fame, the Country Music Hall of Fame is probably the most respected Hall of Fame in the United States.

      Why? Because it is exclusive. Not everyone gets in. It may be hard for us to believe, but I think the Country Music artists themselves respect and accept that as well. Many current Hall of Famers never dreamed they would be in there, and many artists, who fans think should be in, know very well they will never get in.

      Not every artist has a Hall of Fame career. A short period of massive success does not merit induction. Look at the careers of Jack Greene, David Houston, Dan Seals and Shania Twain. Greene (60's), Houston (70's), Seals (80's) and Twain (90's), were hot, hot, hot in those decades on the charts. But I really do not believe any of them will see a Hall of Fame induction. Because once the chart success stopped - it stopped.

      I think Jeannie Seely is campaigning hard for Dottie West to be inducted, knowing fully well she will never be. Compare the careers. Yes, Jeannie has faithfully labored over 40 years in Country Music, much less than Dottie who left too soon, but the commercial success of Seely was not near as good as that of West, nor was her influence on the genre. Dottie should be in, Seely should not.

      You have to draw a line somewhere. And like it or not it is the electors job to do that. If the general public elected the nominees, everyone would be in, and the CMHF would be as dis-respected as the Rock-n-Roll Hall of Fame and others.

      Keep the inductions few, no mass groups going in, and we will keep the respect.

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    2. I ment to say, of course, Jeannie Seely has labored longer than Dottie West.

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    3. i'm a fan and understand what you are saying, but as a Wilburn Bros fan, I have to say that their influence has been more than just there own songs. It's been the (now) famous folks they helped, the publishing business, tv, radio and their faithful service to the GOO. Not to mention their strong promotion of the HOF (even now in the tv show's that are replaying). Just saying. Thanks for listening.

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  21. Anonymous, Garth was part of a category intended to induct stars of his generation or era. In other words, if the only available category had been, say, musician or stars from before the 1950s, he wouldn't have gotten in. I hope.

    When the field was wide open, Eddy Arnold and Johnny Cash got in when both were age 48. Many thought they went in too soon, though no one considered them undeserving. But if I were a voter, I would be haunted by this:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SuiRKKM54Lw

    And that he was gone two months later.

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  22. Fred, Bismarck:

    David, while I agree with you that halls of fame must be exclusive or they are nothing, I think the CMHF has fallen into the "chart" trap, by which the main criterion consulted, particularly for modern artists, is radio play.

    This is suspect on at least two fronts:

    1. Air play, more and more, is driven by consultants, whose main consideration is demographics; and

    2. The music liked by the targeted bubblegummers and young adults tends to be more pop or rock than country.

    Remember Abe Lincoln's query about how many legs a dog has if you call his tail a leg. The answer, four, is because calling a tail a leg does not make it one.

    Radio can play anything it wants, even call it country -- it's a free, uh, country. But, to me, a CMHF that falls into the same trap surrenders all credibility, even if it remains numerically "exclusive."

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  23. Fred and David, I am a baseball fan, and those who like new statistics have come up with all kinds of reasons why some people are in the Hall of Fame at Cooperstown who shouldn't be and some aren't in who should be. From all of this, and from lots of years of grading papers where there are right answers but also no right answers, I have reached the conclusion that it really is subjective. To me, the idea that Garth Brooks went in ahead of Ricky Skaggs and Randy Travis, who did so much to make the country music revival possible, is annoying. But I never quite understood how it was possible to induct Dolly Parton before Porter Wagoner. At the very least, we can agree that the names Byron has listed are deserving.

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  24. Fred, Bismarck:

    I gotta say, Michael, that in the case of Dolly before Porter, I think Hall voters accidentally got it right. Dolly was a true international superstar (which, love him as we do, I don't think we can claim for Porter) -- at the same time that she was a true child of the mountains, outhouses & three or four to a bed and all, whose like we will not see again.

    I'm a baseball fan like you, Michael, and I would say that, even as there might be controversies there on the margins of merit, baseball's hall has no gross miscarriages on the scale of say, Jimmy Dean, Barbara Mandrell, Brenda Lee and the Everly Brothers. (Just for starters, not wanting to start any arguments!)

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  25. I will jump in with my two cents. I am not in favor of another mass induction for the Hall of Fame. I just think it keeps the honor special for those who do get elected. When you ask some of those who did get voted in during mass induction, some felt it was lacking.

    I will agree that the voting is not always fair and some have been voted in before others should have been. And one reason that the Hall of Fame changed the inductions a few years back with the new modern category was to allow more "modern" artists to get voted in, which the Hall hoped would increase the attendance and publicity, which it has.

    Now, what I would be in favor of is perhaps increasing the number of categories. Maybe make the touring musician and songwriting category an every year election and not part of a 3 year rotation. There are plenty of deserving songwriters and musicians that should be in. And perhaps you could add another veteran category, that would just include artists prior to 1960. I know they eliminated the old veterans category because after the voters elected Pop Stoneman, the thought was that there were no more deserving candidates left. Sorry to say, put the voters are wrong.

    And Dolly got in before Porter because Dolly was much nicer than Porter was. Let's just say Porter had his disagreements with more than a few of those in Nashville's music community. (Just to clarify, Porter was always nice to the fans).

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    1. Byron:
      I really believe you hit the nail on the head. Like you I do not believe in mass inductions. However, 4 or 5 a year is not a mass induction.
      I agree the backlog of songwriters and musicians is unbelievable. Frankly, it shocks me that they even started the category some 40 years after the Hall of Fame was established. Virtually every songwriter and musician from the conception of Country commercial country music (ca. 1925) to say the 1960's have been passed by and ignored.
      I would like to see a rotation every other year of a non-performer with a musician and then a songwriter with a posthumous artist. Without a posthumous category, I just cannot see a chance of folks like the Wilburn's, Archie Campbell, Johnny & Jack, Wilma Lee & Stoney Cooper, Eddie Rabbitt, Vern Gosdin, Jerry Clower and even Keith Whitley going in. The electors will always favor the living.
      On the other two categories keep them as they are as far as the span of time, but maybe induct by either a percentage (like the Baseball Hall of Fame, those with 75% or better) or just simply induct the two with the most votes in each category.
      Just some thoughts...

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  26. I believe in a mass induction [every 5 years or so] so they can catch up.That backlog should be worked on.Have a posthumous category.If the voters don't,they will have one hell of a mess.

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  27. Hey David I Bet They Will Stream The Announcement Live Again This Year Just Like 2011 And Last Year

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  28. Hey David I Suspect They Will Look Back To 70s-Early 80s This Year In The Modern Category But You Never Know And Who Knows?

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  29. Hey Guys This Years Hall Of Fame Inductees Should Be Announced Either This Week Or Next Week Im Guessing Buddy Killen The Browns(I Just Cant See It Being Dottie West Shes Dead Like Buddy Killen And I Just Cant See Them Having Two Posthumous Inductions In One Year It Would Be Unfair) And Either Kenny Rogers Or Ronnie Milsap Or If They Continue With More Modern Inductions This Year Alan Jackson(I Just Cant See It Being The Oaks This Year They Didnt Quite Have The Success As Rogers Milsap And Jackson And They Are Only Known For One Song Elvira But Thats It)

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    1. Careful there on the Oaks – they have a much longer history as a group than their time in country music. You have to remember, the group (with varying lineups) has been in existence since the 1940s and were very well-known for their gospel work before they switched to country. Not too long ago, there was an episode of Hee Haw from the early 70s with them when they were still doing gospel, so it's not just the current incarnation of the group, and it's not just their work from the late 1970s on that voters are probably considering when they look at them. It's just a matter of deciding how you define success – I'll be any of Rogers, Milsap and Jackson would love to say they've been performing for nearly 70 years!

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